![]() ![]() We provide our full Zulip Cloud Standard paid plan for free to open source projects (and various other worthy causes!). Zulip, which I lead, absolutely aims to solve this problem. And best of all, network requests are slowed down by how fast your DOM renders? Ugh. When you stack components on components on components that all need to sequentially load data a 1-2s load time starts to stack up, fast. Any sub-components to this then get rinse and repeat once they are actually loaded. The URL indicates exactly what sort of page i want to see, but nothing is loaded until the JS loads, renders, makes a request for whatever data that individual component needs. Everything executes dynamically and sequentially. I'd like to see all requests below 300ms personally. Opening the network tab, you see requests responding a bit slow, maybe 50-500ms, but not _terrible_. The problem in my mind isn't the servers. This is on Jira Cloud, no "toaster NAS" unless you want to blame Jira Cloud for running a toaster, in which case i'd agree. The ~10-12s is loosely evenly spread through the entire steps 1-5. The selected issue component starts loading data. The backlog issues are loaded, so now the selected component opens.Ĥ. The dom has loaded, so now backlog issues are loading.ģ. I used that example because it highlights the list i gave before.ġ. ![]() I just (loosely) timed it, it took ~10-12s to open a backlog selected issue card _with cache_ from refresh. You're right, i'm sensitive to load times and exaggerated by approximately 4x. Thankfully this was fixed a few years ago. * Mobile client used to murder my battery life. * Mobile client frequently misses or is late in showing notifications of received messages. * Mobile client is by far the slowest app on my phone (even today), taking easily 10+ seconds from tapping a notification to having the chat fully loaded. * Terrible/no tools for managing larger chat groups. * The web client and desktop client (despite also being written using web technologies) had various differences, such as different parsing of chat message formatting, so what you sent differed from what the other person saw in many cases. Depending on when and how you started a chat, it would use one or the other system with no obvious indication but many subtle differences in terms of supported features. * They introduced multiple different types of chats as an attempt to transition from P2P to cloud-based. * They replaced a reasonably fast (on Windows) or extremely fast and native (on Linux) application with a slow and bloated Electron-based client that was initially missing many of the features. In 2021, my org pays for Teams and Skype and we use a mix of SMS/iMessage and a million other things because no one IMs any more. In 2001, my company was using yahoo messenger, for free, without any of the problems above with 200 people IMing hundreds of times a day (although we never video or voice called). Who would use that.Ĭoupled with Skype being the reason why all other instant messenger apps were banned from orgs. Imagine is SMS sometimes didn’t deliver messages. I’d rather email than have a tool that works 90% of the time. Instant messaging is so simple and using Skype is worse than nothing. ![]() Sometimes that message actually was delivered Messages aren’t delivered, sometimes with an error that says “prepend couldn’t be reached so message wasn’t delivered” even though the user shows as online and green Video works or doesn’t work unpredictably. Screen share works or doesn’t work unpredictably. Sometimes client will freeze in the background and not take calls or IMs Client will peg cpu at 100% for unknown reasons while idling Skype for business is a giant ball of shit and perhaps the worse messenger product I’ve ever used, and I’ve used them all since IRC and text in 1993. Personal Skype is annoying because it expires credits, so every couple months I have to log in and send a single text to spend some money.Īll my other Skyping is just messaging and calls for free so it’s lame that they keep trying to expire the money I spent. ![]()
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